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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  Richard Oliver

  These sanctions are on appeal. Watchtower says that they have no control over CCJW and that they cannot compel CCJW to turn over any documents.
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard Oliver

  it is interesting. In the Pardon case it is now on appeal to see if Watchtower can force CCJW to produce documents.
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard Oliver

  Life is too short:

  You are right. You are intitled to your opinion. I think many people are going to be very disappointed but if that happens there is nothing I can do about that.
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard Oliver

  freddo:

  Are you saying that I am mentally ill because I don't agree with you and most people on this forum.
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard Oliver

  Again I never said that they will lose. I never said that they should give up. I said that people on here think that it will be a slam dunk or now will just be easy wins here on out. I said that they have a tough hill to climb but obviously they think that they have a shot at wining. I know that I didn't say, yay now watchtower is going down in a firey crash like everyone else is saying, so therefore everyone assumes that I think these firms will lose. It is reality that they have a hill to climb and it will be interesting to see how they fair.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  Outlaw.

  Do you know any other big terms other than strawman argument or is that your crowning achievement that you know that term.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  I never said that you should congratulate them in any way. Just presenting an actual fact. Apparently, Watchtower has had the documents ready since November 2, 2016, but the plaintiff did not stipulate to the non-disclosure agreement as outlined by the first judge, Judge Lewis and the Court of Appeals. So the documents were not turned over till the current judge could rule on a protective order.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  BTW I am just reading that Watchtower is complying with the court order in San Diego to turn over the documents that Lopez has requested in the deposition portion of that case. They have requested a protective order for redaction of certain data and for it to be sealed but they are complying with the order.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  I am trying to say is that when you look at all of the data you find some interesting points. Do I personally feel that they should be sued for all of these? I don't. I know that some people will disagree with me and feel that there is talk about 150000 Austrian dollars per person should be paid out by the organization. I don't think that is right for all of those cases because many of them had nothing to do with Watchtower other than the fact that the perpetrator happened to be a JW. The victim was picked exclusively because they were part of the congregation and nothing could have been done to prevent that crime. Are there instances where an additional victim didn't have to be abused if Watchtower did the morally right thing, that is a different question. But even beyond Australia, people will use those number to extrapolate that there are x number of abusers in each congregation around the world, but if you are going to do that you have to look at the numbers behind that total number. My point is that it is not an easy thing to say that Watchtower should have done X or Y in order to prevent all child abuse.
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  NY Daily News: Gov. Cuomo unveils plan for Child Victims Act that would do away with statute of limitation

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-unveils-plan-child-victims-act-article-1.2943920.

  cuomo unveils plan for child victims act that would do away with statute of limitation .

  cuomo wants to get rid of statute of limitation for child victims.

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  Richard Oliver

  It will be interesting to see if the legislature actually takes this up. It is great that the Governor wants to do it, but it is another thing to get enough legislative members to take it up and actually pass the legislation.